Deep Ancestry

By Peter Biggins
Updated August 1, 2025 About PetersPioneers

James Berles, Cathi Biggins, Sean Biggins, Roger Byrne, Michael Patrick Carroll, Maureen Lyons Carroll, Paul Drueke, Michael McDonnel, Sheila Carroll Krippner, Marc Matthews, Maureen O'Brien, Leo O'Brien, and N. J. Sharkey contributed to this story.

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Genetic genealogy can tell us about the deep ancestry of our ancestors and, in some case, which tribe or sept our ancestors came from. This story addresses the deep ancestry of Peter and Marilyn Carroll Biggins and their family through the use of Y-chromosome DNA, tested by Family Tree DNA. Y-DNA is passed down from father to son, much like surnames. By testing a living male, we can learn about the deep ancestry of his paternal line. Testing can also help determine how closely two people are related.

Abbreviated Y-DNA SNP Tree

IJK-L15     45000 BC     Southern Iran     587,000 T
I-M223
14000 BC
Southern Germany
20,900 T

Cruithne

I-L1195
4150 BC
Ulster
3,600 T

Dál nAraidi

I-FTT7
350 AD
Ulster
67 T

Y63570
1000 AD
Ulster
14 T

BY75184
1300 AD
Ulster
3 T
K-M9     43000 BC     Western Pakistan     397,000 T
P-P226     30000 BC     Eastern Mongolia     355,000 T
R-M173     20000 BC     Eastern Kazakhstan     342,000 T
M420
15000 BC
Southern Russia
56,100 T

"Viking"

FGC11896
1150 AD
Scotland
218 T

Angus Og and Clan Donald
M343     17000 BC     Uzbekistan     286,000 T
M269     4450 BC     Southern Russia     282,000 T
L151     3050 BC     Ukraine     263,000 T
P312     2900 BC     Southern Germany     163,000 T     "Proto-Celtic" U106     3000 BC     Western Poland
70,800 T     "Saxon"
L21     2650 BC     Southern England     89,200 T     "Celtic" DF27     2650 BC     Pyrenees
35,700 T     "Celtic"
U152
2600 BC
Italy
29,800 T
Z18
2300 BC
Scandi-
navia
8,000 T
Z381     2700 BC
Northern Germany
52,300 T
DF21  2400 BC
England  9,500 T
CTS4466
250 BC
Munster
4,100 T

S1121
150 AD
1,700 T

Eoganacht
Z253
2400 BC
England
11,700 T
DF41  1850 BC
England  2,200 T
Z2961  2050 BC
England  17,100 T
Z195
2650 BC
Pyrenees
21,500 T

M153
600 BC
338 T

Basque
ZZ19     2450 BC
Pyrenees
3,900 T
DF98
2000 BC
2,400 T

L1271
1300 AD
6 T

House of Wettin
Z301
2550 BC
36,700 T
Z307
2250 BC
9,300 T
Z3008
450 AD
England
800 T

Colla Uais

Ulster

Carthend

S953
500 AD
Tirkeeran
283 T
Z16291
100 AD
Munster
294 T

Ely Carroll

BY20010
1200 AD
12 T

Charles Carroll of Carrollton
L226
150 AD
Munster
1,900 T

DC782
900 AD
112 T

Brian Boru
FTT74
1 BC
England
317 T
A600
1550 BC
26 T
England
L745
1150 AD
360 T
Scotland

House of Stuart

Charles II ordered Kings Highway
M222
150 BC
15,800 T
Ulster

S588
300 AD
2,300 T

FGC57780
600 AD
73 T

Cenél Moain
FGC6550
550 AD
93 T
Ulster

Hy Maine
Y5058
100 AD
510 T

Breassal Breac

Y5061
500 AD
Leinster
334 T

Z2571
2350 BC
1,050 T
U198
1800 BC
5,400 T
L48
2450 BC
32,900 T

CTS10893
900 BC
2,300 T
FTA14037
1750 AD
Down
2 T
BY3164
1350 AD
Ulster
7 T
Y5610
1050 AD
Munster
83 T
FTC-
82590
300 AD
England
3 T
BY23501
800 AD
England
3 T
BY18200
1650 AD
Ulster
2 T
FT79210
1150 AD
Leinster
8 T
BY142791
1700 AD
Cavan
2 T
BY3323
450 BC
Old Saxony
10 T
BY62081
1500 AD
England
6 T
Patrick H. Byrne 1835 AD
Down
Patrick Beggan
1807 AD
Drumgill, Cavan
Michael O'Brien
1815 AD
Brough, Cork
Adam Berles
1794 AD
Landen-
beck, West-
phalia
Wlliam Mathews
1644 AD
Wales
Daniel McDonald
1813
Ireland
Edmond Carroll
1835 AD
Bally-
neety, Limerick
Galligan Johann Drücke (Börger)
1743 AD
Elspe, West-
phalia
Cluster 1
Baldwin Project
Roger Byrne
kit 208416
Peter Biggins
kit 127469
Leo
O'Brien
kit 197598
James
Berles
kit 1019704
Marc Matthews
kit 116493
Michael McDonnel
kit 252843
Michael Carroll
kit 198624
Paul Drueke
kit 230496
Cluster 1
Baldwin Project
The year shown is a rough estimate by Family Tree DNA of the year the SNP was born.     "T" is the number of testers at Family Tree DNA.

Definitions

Myths, Legends and DNA

Portions of this tree are attributable to Myths, Legends and DNA, an attempt to reconcile the current archeological evidence and genealogical DNA evidence with Ireland's mythical origins, by N. J. Sharkey, 2023 revised.


Y-DNA Testing Results for PetersPioneers

Paternal Ancestor
Birth Year, Place
Male Tested
Relationship
Kit #
Test
Haplogroup
SNPs
FTDNA Projects Comments
Patrick Beggan/Biggins
1807, Drumgill, County Cavan, Ireland
Peter Biggins 127469
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, DF21, S971, F24434, Z3000, Z3006, Z3008, S953, ZZ13, FT14481, BY3164 (1350 AD). See Biggins Deep Ancestry Biggins,
Clan Colla,
DF21,
Null 425
Sean's and Peter's ancestors had farms across the road from each other in Will County, Illinois, southwest of Chicago.
The name Biggins comes from beag, the Irish for little. BY3164 Biggins DNA includes people named Beggan, Beaghen, Bigham, and Little. See Biggins/Beggan Irish Roots.
Sean's DNA matches Peter's, but it is not so close as to suggest that their ancestors were brothers or first cousins. Sean shares a SNP named FT17167 with Eric Began whose ancestor Michael Beggan was born in County Fermanagh in 1781. Peter does not have this SNP.
Z3008 is the DNA of The Three Collas, brothers who lived in 4th century Ulster. BY3164 descends from brother Colla Uais and his grandson Carthend. Carthend lived in County Derry in the 5th century on the Faughan River in an area that was later called a barony and named Tirkeeran. The name Tirkeeran comes from the Irish Tír Mhic Caoirthinn, which means land of Carthend. See: Z3000 The Three Collas and Faughan River
James Biggins
1822, County Monaghan, Ireland
Sean Biggins, whose ancestor lived across the road from Peter's ancestor Patrick in Illinois 146867
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, DF21, S971, F24434, Z3000, Z3006, Z3008, S953, ZZ13, FT14481, BY3164 (1350 AD), FT17167 (1400 AD) Biggins,
Clan Colla,
DF21,
Null 425
Johann Drüecke (Börger)
1743, Elspe, Westphalia, Germany
Paul Charles Drueke, first cousin of Peter 230496
Big Y-700
R-L151, U106 Saxon, Z301, L48, Z9, Z30, Z27 Z345, Z2, Z7, CTS10893, A6389, BY3323 (450 BC) Drueke,
U106,
Germany,
Anglo-Saxon
Paul has few DNA matches and none later then 400 BC. He matches men from England (Arnold, Bennett, Ozment, Phipps, Scott, Self, Wooten, Wright), Wales (Ellis, Price), Scotland (Armstrong, Reed, Russell), and Ireland (Moore). Many people with English names have Germanic origins. The term Anglo-Saxon is used by some historians to designate the Germanic tribes who invaded and settled the south and east of Britain from the early 5th century up to the Norman conquest in 1066. Our ancestor is from the far southern part of Old Saxony. See BY3323 Saxon
Adam Berles
1794, Landenbeck, Westphalia, Germany
James Berles, third cousin of Peter, once removed 1019704 Big Y-700 R-L151, P312 Celtic, L21, Z253, FGC3268, FTC82590 (300 AD) MGS Landenbeck is 16 miles northeast of Elspe, where Johann Drüecke is from, in Westphalia, Germany, which was part of Old Saxony. James' closest matches are people whose ancestors are from Scotland and Ireland. Berles Y-DNA is Celtic. Drueke Y-DNA is Saxon. There are almost as many Celts in Germany as Saxons.
William Mathews
1644, Wales
Marc Thomas Matthews, second cousin of Peter 116493
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, DF41, S775, A600, BY23501 (800 AD) Matthews,
L21,
DF41/CTS2501
Marc and Peter are great grandchildren of William Peter and Elizabeth Berles Drueke.

From S775 are also descended the Royal Stuarts of Scotland and England
Edmond Carroll
1835, Ballyneety, Limerick, Ireland
Michael Patrick Carroll, second cousin of Marilyn, once removed 198624
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, DF27, Y5058/A641, Y5061, FT44660, BY61861, FT79210 (1150 AD) Carroll,
Breassal Breac,
DF27,
McCarville
Michael's DNA matches Ryan, O'Dwyer, Lee/Leary, Gorman, and Kennedy, as well as Carroll. These families descend from Breassal Breac who lived in Leinster around 200 or 100 BC. They settled in the 13th or 14th century in County Tipperary and County Limerick. DF27 DNA is the Gascon & Iberian branch of R-P312. See Y5058 Breassal Breac.
Daniel McDonald
1813, Ireland
Michael McDonnel, third cousin of Marilyn, once removed 252843
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, M222, S658, DF104, DF105, S588, S603, FGC57780, FGC23592, FT120288, BY216377 (1150 AD). Gormley,
Cenel Eoghain,
Clan Donald (&LSP8J),
M222
Michael's BY216377 DNA is associated with a group called Cenel Moain (FGC57780), a subset of Cenel Eoghain (S588), a subset of Northwest Irish (M222). Northwest Irish was originally identified in a Trinity College Study and said to be descended from Niall of the Nine Hostages, who lived in Ireland in the 4th/5th century. See: FGC57780 Cenel Moain
Thomas Foy
1800, Derreennascooba, Mayo, Ireland
None. Looking for a distant Foy cousin of Peter Foy,
Fay,
Hunt
There may be a possible tester among descendants, but none has been identified yet. See Foy/Fee Irish Roots.
John Francis Flannery
1788, Derreenmanus, Mayo Ireland
None. Looking for a distant Flannery cousin of Marilyn Most likely R-L151, P312, L21, M222 Flannery There may be a possible tester among descendants in Green County, Wisconsin, but none has been identified yet. Clan Flannery sponsors a Flannery DNA project at Family Tree DNA. Of the Flannerys from County Mayo who had tested their Y-chromosome DNA as of June 2012, all match up with a group called Northwest Irish. Northwest Irish was originally identified in a Trinity College Study. Two of these Northwest Irish have ancestors from the townland of Sarnaught in the civil parish of Aglish, which is nearby Derreenmanus: kits 36430 and 221086.
Y-DNA Related by Marriage of Children
Patrick H. Byrne
1835, Ireland
Roger Byrne (1962-2021), husband of daughter Carroll 208416
Big Y-700
I-M223, P222, CTS616, FGC15071, M284, L1195, L126, FGC20063, FT2393, S7753, Y4142, Y4751, FTT7, BY3610, Y63570, BY75184, BY93599, FTA14037 (1750 AD) Byrne,
M223,
Null 425
Roger shares FTA14037, born around 1750 AD, with a Donald Austin Byrne (1934-2017), kit 338826, whose oldest known Byrne ancestor is Austin Thomas Byrne (1859, Dublin), born in Dublin. He also matches closely with three testers named McGivern, which is associated with Rostrevor, County Down. Byrne may be a form of McGivern.
I-M223 was born in 14000 BC in Southern Germany. I-L1195 was one of the first inhabitants of Ireland, around 4150 BC in Ulster. His people became known as the Dál nAraidi. They may be the Darini who appear on Ptolemy's map of Ireland.
Michael O'Brien
1815, Brough, County Cork, Ireland
Leo O'Brien, uncle-in-law of son Edward 197598
Big Y-700
R-L151, P312, L21, Z253, L226, FGC5660, Z17669, ZZ31, FGC5628, FGC5623, FGC5659, ZZ34, DC782, Y5610 (1050 AD) O'Brien,
L226
Leo shares Y5610 (1050 AD) with Conor Myles John O'Brien of Dromoland Castle who traces his ancestry back to Brian Boru. Brian Boru was born circa 940 in what is now County Clare and died in the Battle of Clontarf, north of Dublin, on April 23, 1014. See Irish Type III DNA. L226 DNA type also is called Dalcassian and Irish Type III. See DC782 Brian Boru DNA

Hopefully, we will learn more about our deep ancestry through testing of more family members.

Basics of Y-DNA

By Dr. Iain McDonald, Jodrell Bank Centre for Astrophysics, Alan Turing Building, The University of Manchester, Manchester, England

The following came from an email sent by Iain on July 16, 2025.

Let's go back to basics so that anyone rusty is back up to speed. :)

  • Mutations occur in our genomes over time as genetic code gets copied.
  • On the Y chromosome, mutations get passed from father to son.
  • Because new mutations continuously occur, we can use the number of mutations that differ between two men as a relative measure of how far back in time they are related: the more SNPs that differ between them, the further back in time their common ancestor lived.
  • We can group people sharing sets of mutations into haplogroups. Normally, this is done using Y-SNP mutations, because they are more stable. Each haplogroup is therefore defined by one or more SNPs, and contains two or more men. For example, the haplogroup R-A7373 is currently defined by ten SNPs and contains ten men.
  • These haplogroups are effectively large family units, representing the male-line descendants of their common ancestor.
  • Each man therefore belongs to a series of nested haplogroups, stretching from the global haplogroup that includes all mankind at one end, down through progressively smaller and younger haplogroups that contain fewer and fewer men, until eventually we can list the "private" mutations that are found only in that man's line and no-one else's.
  • As new testers come along, they will form new haplogroups with the people they are most closely related to.
  • In some cases, they will share some but not all of the SNPs within a haplogroup with the other testers.
  • For example, an 11th man may come along who is positive for six of the SNPs within R-A7373 and negative for the other four. In that case, the haplogroup would split: an older, larger haplogroup would be formed with 11 men and defined by four SNPs, and a younger haplogroup would be formed with 10 men and defined by six SNPs. If the man was A7373+, then the younger haplogroup would retain the R-A7373 label. If the man was A7373-, then the older haplogroup would retain the R-A7373 label. In either case, the other haplogroup would then be named after one of the SNPs that define it.
  • Not all sequencing tests are identical. There are differences between any two BigY tests of a few percent in coverage (and between BigY-500 and BigY-700 tests by about 33%).
  • This means that sometimes some SNPs can be called in one test, but they may not appear in another test, or may appear with too low a quality to be clearly called.
  • Sometimes, these SNPs may end up on the haplotree anyway, if they can be securely called among enough tests in the group. For example, most of us are Z2265+ and BY30097+, but that may not show up in all of our tests, because these SNPs are often called with low-quality results.
  • SNPs are named by the lab that discovered them. For example, A-series SNPs were named after Thomas Krahn's lab at YSeq where we've done a lot of individual SNP and SNP-pack testing; FGC-series SNPs were named after the Full Genomes Corp., which re-analysed a lot of the raw files from early BigY tests. Family Tree DNA have several labels: BY-series SNPs refer to SNPs discovered in the original BigY-500 tests, while FT-series SNPs refer to SNPs discovered in the new BigY-700 tests. MF refers to the Chinese company 23mofang.

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